Everything that I've ever done in the jewelry industry is actually through Stuller.  I am the Stuller guy at work so that's all I do is work with Stuller.  One of the other biggest things for me to come into Stuller to see the people that I speak to every day. Whether it's Bonita or Evelyn, those people make my day so much easier so if I feel like we're getting laid on something I'm getting nervous hey how's that piece going how's CAD/CAM number five six two three four whatever?  They're there for me and they talk me down and it's just incredible how much they participate in my experience and they're those background people that are making that front room kind of glow and sparkle as it does.